LF2 Multi Server v1.0 - Play a network game with 4 players!

[ayalx]

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Hello to all the LF2 community

At least, after weeks of research and work, we are proud to introduce the LF2 Multi Server.
This is a first version of the server, that enables you to play a network game with up to 4 players from 4 different computers.
Now you can play with 2 or 3 players in the net, with minimal lags!
I hope that this new option will add more fun and excitement to the game, and will help to refresh the community

Download:
http://lf2-global.com/Downloads/ShowDownload.asp?id=127

And a full user guide you can find here:
http://lf2-global.com/article.asp?id=23

As I said, this is a very first version of the server.
It still lacks a lot of things, like more comfortable user interface, the ability to see the real names of the players during the game, and more.
It is very likely too that there are still some bugs.
If LF2 crashes unexpectedly duiring the game, (like with Synchronization Error), we will be glad if you will inform us, and also write exactly what happend in the game in the moment before the error.

In the next versions we hope to solve all the bugs, and also add more options like the ability to add people that can only watch the game, and maybe even upgrade the server so it will be able to connect more then 4 players...

Enjoy

[Megatron]

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hm, is it lobby or his competition?

[Kevin]

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it is like a lobby right?
This will be really fun if the program is already popular, because right now I can't find anyone to play with

[Chiko]

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"From today, you can play a network game with up to 4 players from 4 diffrent computers!"

grossly inaccurate

I've had 4 player support out for at least a year

good job on your progress but i find it rather offensive that you're completely dismissing my programs existence

[Arawn]

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Chiko wrote:

"From today, you can play a network game with up to 4 players from 4 diffrent computers!" grossly inaccurate I've had 4 player support out for at least a year good job on your progress but i find it rather offensive that you're completely dismissing my programs existence

Don't worry no matter what happens i'll keep sticking to lobby ^^

[justin bieber]

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: )
NIce awesome now i can play with My other freinds

[ayalx]

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Chiko wrote:

"From today, you can play a network game with up to 4 players from 4 diffrent computers!" grossly inaccurate I've had 4 player support out for at least a year good job on your progress but i find it rather offensive that you're completely dismissing my programs existence

Hey Chiko
You are absolutely right.
I am very sorry if we offensed you in any way.
The update at the site is just a translation of the update at LF2.co.il...
At Israel, LF2 Lobby doesn't work, probably due to the distance between us and you.
It is doed work, thr game is most of times very laggy.
Due to that, until now ib Israel we coudln't play with more then 2 players in a game, and therefore this program is indeed a new option in Israel.
But in the LF2 community, I sure that a lot of players use your LF2 Lobby.
Our server is not suppose to "compete" with your program.
It is a very simple server that lacks a lot of the advanced options that LF2 Lobby has, and inteded to help people who can't use your program to play LF2 with their friends in a simple and quick way.

I fixed the update in the site, and again I am sorry about the inaccurate wording.

[SSJ5 Woody]

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I l0ve It

[Chiko]

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ayalx wrote:

Hey Chiko You are absolutely right. I am very sorry if we offensed you in any way. The update at the site is just a translation of the update at LF2.co.il... At Israel, LF2 Lobby doesn't work, probably due to the distance between us and you. It is doed work, thr game is most of times very laggy. Due to that, until now ib Israel we coudln't play with more then 2 players in a game, and therefore this program is indeed a new option in Israel. But in the LF2 community, I sure that a lot of players use your LF2 Lobby. Our server is not suppose to "compete" with your program. It is a very simple server that lacks a lot of the advanced options that LF2 Lobby has, and inteded to help people who can't use your program to play LF2 with their friends in a simple and quick way. I fixed the update in the site, and again I am sorry about the inaccurate wording.

Thank you for the change

I just find it frustrating that no one has mentioned having latency issues or anything about the lobby not working in israel :S i've had some contacts from israel who haven't had any issues and i just find it annoying that everywhere i see this posted they are claiming it as the first of its kind and how great it is despite it came out a few months after mine was publicly released

(post made by louisex)

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Four people on one computer to play together! Hkiskosim era came: @ Questions and Answers: 1. Is this real? Answer: Yes. 2. Really?! Answer: Yes. 3. What are you kidding me?! Answer: No, shut up.

See whats the deal with that? that was posted on the 26th december 2009 when mine was last updated on the 25th november 2009

this is bothering me a lot because bad information is being spread out about the lobby even before its out of beta and even worse that other people are trying to copy this very idea and forcing me to compete against my own code

I'm not against trying to get the best speed i'm against the fact its being posted on all these forums that its the first of its kind and the sad thing is some people haven't even seen the real lobby yet and so they believe this

ayalx who exactly wrote this program? i noticed you used the word "We"

my original goal with this lobby was to help rebuild the community and bring everyone together to enjoy some good games of lf2 the reason i haven't released a 4p standalone server like you've done is to encourage people to join the online system in order to build an active online community and i can just see these standalone servers hurting it (thats why i didn't release mine)

sorry for the rant just a bit frustrated as you can understand from what i've been reading over the net and at lf2.co.il

[justin bieber]

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I played it and it was awesome
: ) good Job

[Dixon]

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Yeah, amazing.. 10 years after lf release suddenly appears two (probably idependantly released) ways of playing it at 4 comps. Of course i m really glad and stuff, but believe if this was released just a year ago, amount of players now would be at least twice as large as now is.

[Lettuce]

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Hey Chiko,
I dont understand why you are so mad...
I begged for my brother to built me a program that will make it be possible to play with more than 2 players for a long time. Someday he said that he will try to check if he can do it, and after a week (not to mention that Ayal barly has time) he did!
It worked wonderfully for me and without lags, so we decided to publish it so everyone will be able to enjoy it. Its a simple and fast-made program, that works.
What do you mean by: "forcing me to compete against my own code"? Ayal built his own code, I guess it was quite easy for him consider other things that he do.

About your program: what your saying here, that you are not about to publish your server. Do you really expect players from Israel to play your proggrem after that? you translate the hebrew forum and yet forgot that we play full speed games only(!), wach the discussion below: "Slow motion traing video", for a lot of extra information.
I really wish that you will be able to solve the "lag" problem between far countrys, but beeing reallisitc, you wont.
You wont, because simple logic say that if 2-4 pepole from from Israel will play through a server in europe or wherever you are, they will have lags (I mean slow game speed!).
Does it even make sense, that people from the same country, that lives a few miles neer to each other, will have to comunicate each other by a server that is located thousands miles away?
Yea, it doesn't make sense to me nor other players in Israel. Didn't you ever wonder why there isn't any players from Israel that use your proggrem?
We have our "lags" issue, yet we have big enough community to play with among ourselves.
To all of our community, Ayal's new program is nothing less then a revolution, its the first time they are expose to such a thing! (not to mention that I have almost never managed to connect the lobby main screen, and I guess thats go for other players from Israel as well...)

Your original goal with this lobby was to help rebuild the community, ok. But what about our communitty? and what about the forums, doesn't they fulfil that purpose?
Ayal's original goal was to make it possible for me to play with Arik and 2 more people from Israel.
He made it, so we simply decided to share it with the rest of the world.


Dixon:
A change in LF2 protocol at version 2.0 made it much more easy to built programs as such. so you can understand why it happend just now:P

[Chiko]

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Lettuce wrote:

Hey Chiko, I dont understand why you are so mad... I begged for my brother to built me a program that will make it be possible to play with more than 2 players for a long time. Someday he said that he will try to check if he can do it, and after a week (not to mention that Ayal barly has time) he did!

Hey Lettuce,
I'm not mad, more surprised than anything
When i first saw this thread i thought nothing of it till i noticed the update on the homepage which slightly annoyed me

There was no mention that this was intended for Israel players or those unable to join the server it just looked like someone was misleading people its only a revolutionary once

So i made a comment and aylax was nice enough to change the thread here and i've had no issue with it.

I recently setup my domain name and was testing for it to see if it has been indexed on google and came across a thread with some random saying "Better Than The Loby | New Program By Ayalx" and at that point i found out about certain

players not caring for any kind of lag (understandable) and i just didn't like the idea that this was spreading out and i had to hear about it from contacts rather than the people having a problem

Lettuce wrote:

It worked wonderfully for me and without lags, so we decided to publish it so everyone will be able to enjoy it. Its a simple and fast-made program, that works.

Of course it would it's running on the local machine but that doesn't mean the lobby can't be just as fast the lobby started out as a small program that sits on the local desktop i just wanted to bring the community together thats why i

purchased the server in europe (I live in australia so its no use to me) i attempted to find out where the largest number of players were and it turned out to be europe i wish more people from israel had spoken out so i could of made

other arrangements sooner~ either way i don't have a problem with this

Lettuce wrote:

What do you mean by: "forcing me to compete against my own code"? Ayal built his own code, I guess it was quite easy for him consider other things that he do.

what are you trying to imply? why did ayalx take so long to release this? and why so soon after me? i'm having doubts if he did his own research but if he did then congrats to him either way i knew it was bound to happen i was just

hoping to get everything done before than so it wouldn't be needed

Lettuce wrote:

About your program: what your saying here, that you are not about to publish your server. Do you really expect players from Israel to play your proggrem after that?

The reason i didn't want to publish it here right away is because it was a beta and i wasn't sure what kind of load it could handle i wanted to get more testing done before everyone started using it and potentially breaking it (or me

being spammed with the same bug reports)
unfortunately i ran out of time on my holidays and had to go back to work so i didn't end up finishing the update however people from here, lf2.co.il and a few other sites were using the server (they still are) so i came back when i

could and provided technical support as much as i could for the now aging code

Don't talk for all the players in israel or any country i posted on one forum (found out about lf2-global after from maple) and i wasn't ready to jump back and forth between two forums and its against your TOS to link to another site

anyway so i couldn't link everyone to lfe and i don't have enough instructions on my homepage to explain it clear enough so i just left it till i had more time

lettuce wrote:

you translate the hebrew forum and yet forgot that we play full speed games only(!), wach the discussion below: "Slow motion traing video", for a lot of extra information.

Thats the problem lettuce no one told me there was a problem or that you guys play in full speed games only (this will be the second time i've heard it first was about 2 days ago)
I remember a while ago people only ever used to play in lag and preferred it over full speed so i just assumed people didn't care much for it (althought i did focus on trying to get the best speeds available and haven't done to bad for

those in europe/germany)

lettuce wrote:

I really wish that you will be able to solve the "lag" problem between far countrys, but beeing reallisitc, you wont. You wont, because simple logic say that if 2-4 pepole from from Israel will play through a server in europe or wherever you are, they will have lags (I mean slow game speed!).

Thats not quite true, the purpose of the lobby isn't just to connect people together and handle all data its meant to provide a service and help people get into a game of lf2
I've developed a lot of techniques/programs to improve the user experience involving 8 player support and providing the best latency possible i just haven't had enough time to implement them in the lobby (they will be coming soon though

^_^)

realistically i can provide a faster service than a single server running on one pc (if i couldn't then i would of just released my 4p server when 2.0 first came out)

lettuce wrote:

Does it even make sense, that people from the same country, that lives a few miles neer to each other, will have to comunicate each other by a server that is located thousands miles away?

No it doesn't make sense but that wasn't the point of the service (again this is why i didn't want to mass distribute this just yet) there is a reason everyone has a local program (i could of just fed all the connections through the

server but this allows for much more flexibility)

lettuce wrote:

Yea, it doesn't make sense to me nor other players in Israel. Didn't you ever wonder why there isn't any players from Israel that use your proggrem?

You know nothing of who visits my server there are players from Israel who use my program

lettuce wrote:

We have our "lags" issue, yet we have big enough community to play with among ourselves.

If only you had spoken out earlier there would of been a nice high speed server available for several months

lettuce wrote:

To all of our community, Ayal's new program is nothing less then a revolution, its the first time they are expose to such a thing!

Because they haven't seen the lobby yet which is misleading its not a revolution if you apply the same idea somewhere else its just the same thing but "faster" can't keep throwing the word revolution around

lettuce wrote:

(not to mention that I have almost never managed to connect the lobby main screen, and I guess thats go for other players from Israel as well...)

See this is what i'm talking about some people have issues and never raise it with anyone and just assume its the lobby fault or they are to far away and just give a good program a bad name what about when i make it so it runs flawlessly

in israel? then what i'm still stuck with a group of players who wouldn't bother to try it and just assume its still slow thats what annoys me

lettuce wrote:

Your original goal with this lobby was to help rebuild the community, ok. But what about our communitty? and what about the forums, doesn't they fulfil that purpose?

Why is it my fault that i couldn't find all the communities? and from what i can tell my lobby was posted on lf2.co.il in october so what do you want from me? i could of easily just said stuff it and throw out a 4p server for everyone to

play with but i wanted to make it better and buy a server so everyone even those that don't really know other people can just jump into a game together and play this fun classic game so no the forums don't fulfil that purpose i've seen

so many topics of people wanting to play but noone ever responds or they are not online by the time the post is seen so i wanted to make it real time and make it easier

lettuce wrote:

Ayal's original goal was to make it possible for me to play with Arik and 2 more people from Israel. He made it, so we simply decided to share it with the rest of the world.

I understand where you are coming from but you need to understand what i'm saying, perhaps ayalx can explain it better for you.

[Arawn]

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Didn't really go through all that...so just read some of it.

You guys need to sort it out...

Chiko don't worry no matter what people say about lobby don't bother...it's just that the latest wave of newcomers are really children..and they can't work out with slow lf2 games or something like lobby.Once you make a readme.txt,compress the winsock, lobby and the txt in one archive and put them in the site for download, i am sure everything will be fine.As for lf2 multi server...it's just a simple program made in DOS(i guess) and was not meant for competing against you in any way.It was developed just so that israeli players can play as they like....and then later share it with the world just like what happened to the il site.

So just calm down everyone

[SNiPES94]

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Nice job. People said me it works if you just press Enter ,but Im getting this msg if I dont type 127.0.0.1 :